Originally Posted by Steve85

Ok I am not seeing how resolving things by September....or not... helps or prevents this in any way? This is pure manipulation, and trying to find a reason to move on her "proposal".


It helps...her. She gets ‘clarity’—she just wants to steamroll ahead on this. Hence why I asked to think about it.

She’s also said that she will put off this training if she absolutely has to—if the boys aren’t in a good place. But she wants to settle things with me (one way or the other) so she can move this forward, and then get the boys in a good place (I guess?)

Why should I help her leave me? And I have zero interest in vacating the household any sooner than I absolutely have to. Why—so she could later on claim abandonment? No thanks.

Originally Posted by Steve85
I do see her being capable of anything at this point. Bo, you may want to start recording your interactions with her. To prove there is no emotional abuse. That if anything she is the abusive one (both verbally and emotionally). Also, talk to your L, but most of the time if there is no physical abuse they are not going to order you out of the house. so she may try to continue to escalate. BE ON YOUR TOES. This means no throwing of things, no punching walls or anything else, etc. Plenty of WAWs have pushed their LBH to the point where they punch a car or break things in the house, and then use that to get them out of the house as a "threat of physical violence". Don't fall into that trap.


I do, too. Who knows what may come next for her.

I’ll ask L about “if there is no physical abuse they are not going to order you out of the house.”

I’m not a physically violent or aggressive person. I know she doesn’t want me like this now, but I know that she was (is?) into the Fifty Shades of Gray thing, so she wanted more sexual aggression from me, but I didn’t want to slide over into abuse, so I held back on that.

I’ll do my best to keep it together—I’m sure exercise wil help work out any aggression, or at least calm me down enough that I won’t get aggressive / violent later on.

Originally Posted by Steve85
Hang in there, she is angry that you aren't "falling in line". Really that is a good thing.


100% she is upset that I’m not doing what she wants. But she’s supposedly always been unhappy about that, and that’s what she wants me to change. She wants me to cooperate with her and put both of us aside for the sake of the kids.

What’s odd is that last night she’s accused me of anger towards her.

My naivety is showing—how is this (her anger on this) a good thing?

Last edited by Bo562; 01/18/19 04:01 PM.

M: 36
W: 30
T: 9
M: 7

S6 (OS)
S7mo (YS)

ILYBINILWY BD: Feb. ‘18

W Wants S / D BD: 1/4/19

H / W still in-house

D papers from W: 3/14/19