Wow! Slowly - I came to visit you and received a great lesson from Betsey here! A great thanks to Betsey for opening up her own pain to give the rest of us some insight. It has been so hard for many of us to imagine that their A is NOT about us! It seems like it must be - because there is a void in them that WE are not filling. However, we need to know what that void is in order to fill it - and we need to be willing to try.