Thanks, everyone!

Yes, I think the talk went very well. I see suggestions that recommend going a different direction from my initial plan. As of now, I don't see a reason to stray from that plan. W processes things much slower than I do.

I will reiterate. This was not totally about getting my W in the sack. It was about putting my foot down. Expressing my feelings and not having any expectations. Setting a boundary.

No, this R talk could never have happened like this 6 months ago.

When you have a poor communicator you have to read things into both their words and actions. What did she mean she said, "could not go back"? Who knows? Believe me, I asked and only got this sad look and a repeat. I told her that if she thought that resuming our sex life would make all things go back to where they were, I said that I didn't see that as the case. I had to be very careful not to rationalize her feelings. That never works. Not long term anyway.

One thing that I will add is she said, while trying to, as she said, not be mean, was that she didn't get anything from it except an orgasm.
My response was that in that case, we would need to work on that. One more thing I blame on poor communication.

I imagine that if this is to progress, we will have sex before any moving back into the MBR. Right now the "arm's length" intimacy that we share is in our TV/movie time together. W really seems to value this time together. Things are trepidacious. Proceeding with caution. W says she was done when she had the EA. (she just forgot to tell me). A lot has changed since.
We continue to work on joint projects. Right now it is D16's problem teacher. W is a taskmaster and working together goes a long way for her.

Remember, we've had MC. Three different ones. It didn't go well. I am open to it but W knows that we have made more progress without.

I'll expand on these responses after more thought.


M 53 W 54, M since 98
D15, D19
8/2013 discovered EA, W maintained contact with OM
until 10/14
7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
12/17 W says moving out 5/18, W still in home.