Ooops, sorry AD. I didn't mean to upset you. I'd had a couple of drinks when I wrote that last night and I may not have put it the way I meant it.

Thanks NMB for the frank insight, that was very revealing and not what I had imagined. I was under the impression that things were more obviously physical.

I think need to explain my line of questioning. I am aware of several classifications of sexual dyfunction in women, the main two being desire disorder and arousal disorder. Due to the lack of communications in this area in our R, I still haven't fathomed out whether my LD GF is never interested (ie SDD) or sometimes interested but loses it because of lack of response (ie SAD). I know from a man's point of view that we can be triggered off in both ways - an erection can trigger mental turn-on and vice versa. I was fascinated to know if a woman also has this two-way street. If not, then the idea of "just doing it anyway" is not so helpful if the LD partner is the W. More recently in our case, I am sometimes permitted to try to initiate for a while instead of being pushed away immediately but a couple of minutes later she says its doing nothing for her and she stops me. It seems she is at last trying to reach for some desire but won't explain to me whether its her mind or body that is failing her.