Moving on to the Bright Side Part 13

[DonH]

But now, you basically say that because she keeps blowing up your phone you are going to "take another run at it". You romantic devil, you....we women so love when men "take a run at us."

OMG I think I may have just pissed my pants after reading that Dawn. I mean, too funny - or it just hit me that way. But I too took it kinda creepy as well and not at all flattering to or typical of Joseph but I think there is truth there.

Nothing is guaranteed. I know I have hurt people and I know I have been hurt as well. That's part of life.

True enough but I think you are doing so much mind reading here and missing the bigger picture - because you are in the thick of it. That said some of us are mind reading as well but in part because I think you are making things up as you go so all we can do is take our best gut guess. I can tell you think we are coming down too hard on you and perhaps we are but by your own admission you are very much feeling your way through all of this - you'll know it when you see it. Again, fair enough but we can sense this woman is far more into you than you her. So when you say you are going to take another run at her there is truth to that statement. Yes, people get hurt all the time and it's not our jobs to prevent that but we are seeing this for what it is and this woman wants way more than you do. Clearly having sex with her is on your top 3 of priorities at this time - perhaps it's the top. For her I'll bet it's not cracking her top 5 and falls lower on the top 10. That's why we are trying to tell you that the two of you are not on the same page!!!

And when we say it's not very smart for any woman who does not know you to go to your house on the first or second date, it has very little to do with you. You can be one of the safest and nicest guys on the planet but there is no way for the women to know that!!! It has nothing to do with you and all to do with them not using their heads no matter whom it's with

Perhaps it is just part of all of this and you have to learn it on your own. I can guarentee if you look back at all of this a year from now you will face palm and say what the hell was I doing? You're too close now to see that. Even Dawn sees how you are blowing up the coaches rules - someone you claim to really follow yet you are violating his principles left and right. Dawn has never read the book. We see it but you can't - you're too close.

I can tell you this, if she does slip on her own rules and sleeps with you and doesn't get to call you her new boyfriend afterwards, she will totally regret violating her own rules and blame you on top of it. So take a run at her if you will but the girls are right -- someone here is going to get hurt - unless LH19 is correct and you really do want an R with her. Everyone here thinks he/she is correct. So who knows? I think you are making it all up as you go along and you won't know how you feel until you are there feeling it. That seems crystal clear.

.Also if we have sex it could be really fuching crappy and that would definitely be a deal breaker. She told me there was 1 guy that started crying during sex because it was his first time after his W died and some other dude that just didn't know what to do. Obviously she had sex with them and ended things because it sucked. $hit happens.

Do you really believe this? So if the very first round of sex stinks you move on? You really believe she is the type of woman to dump a guy because he cried after having sex for the first time since becoming a widower? Really? I swear sometimes you just write shlt without giving it any thought - aka taking a run at her. While new and random can sometimes be hot, it's been the experience of many that it's best with someone you are really really into and have gotten to know - including knowing what the other persons likes and dislikes are. It's not a coincidence that Ginger has said both that M feels different and better than any of the previous guys she dated and is also the best sex she's had. That's not coincidence. For my money, anyone who would find the very first I intimate encounter as a deal breaker - no matter how average it was - is not someone you want to get in an R with in the first place. It really does get better with time and as you get closer and closer. People can be taught and for that matter as the coach even writes women are not the same - what one loves the next hates.

Don - there's this new invention - it's called Amazon. You should try it sometime.

Lol yeah I know... I've even used it. That's the easy part though - ordering what you want. It's knowing what to get that is stumping me. So I was out looking for inspiration - and people watching at the same time!