Just wanted to say thank you Sandi. Lots of helpful advice for us guys you have just provided! I so wish my W had been willing to go to the lengths you went to with your H to try and make him understand the emotional needs you had. I got the gave up and done from her very clearly, but feel like if she really tried to help me understand I would have been able to get it. The pillow talk and words of affirmation such easy things a man could provide if he truly realized how important they were. Sad we guys struggle so badly to get out of our own opinionated minds on how we think you ladies should feel, instead of really allowing ourselves to open our narrow minds to the idea that you ladies may see things completely differently. Again very helpful words! Thank you!