Whirlwind of Hurt 5

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D8 had as far as I can tell a panic/anxiety attack at school

Did you get more details from D8 about what happened?

D5 wet herself at school today.

Think how stressful this is for you a full grown man. You and your kids are being "Drug through the mud" and the best thing you can do is Just keep loving your kids. Let them know you will always be there for them. Hugs and more hugs. Keep forgiving their mother. She knows not what she is doing.

she is just going on a full blown rant ...

She basically called to chew me out.

She starts ranting again

I answered out of habit. BAD MOVE.....She calls back and I answer. BAD MOVE #2

I do not think this is bad. Your job is to listen and understand. Not agree or argue or debate.

I tried to validate her feelings about the kids health and get a word in edgewise.

Better to just listen. When she says "Are you there??" You respond with "Thanks for sharing. Anything else?""

I then tell her IC told me kids would try to manipulate us.

Bad timing. You can't reason with people when they are angry.