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I'm not sure if I'm addressing the type of things you wanted to know. Let me know.



You did address a lot of what I was looking for. In my sitch and I can't believe I am the only one, WW is demonstrating all of the signs of the "Will herself to do the right things" stage. It took a while to trust that it wasn't just to throw me off her trail. But I see it almost exactly as you described your sitch. BTW, I believe this stage deserves a legit Label.

So question is, stubborn W hasn't admitted that she is piecing or staying or anything. I have heard "For now I am still here" but as offten said here, actions speak louder than words. I think due to self esteam issues blah blah blah, she will always struggle to admit how wrong she was.
I do believe she is trying to show me.
Anyway, I don't think the feelings are all back, so she is still Willing herself. And I have tried to be supportive as you described. I also think W is waiting to see if my changes are perminate. So some of the advice that you provided seems out of reach. We are doing a lot of this Friendly activity stuff that you described. But telling her that I reqire for her to move back to the MBR seems confrintational. Telling her that sex will be expected seems like fighting words. It is my gut feeling but I think these are the kind of things she is withholding until the feelings return. I hope this makes sence. I am in no way justifing her feelings, simply sharing what I believe is going on.
As has often been discused on my thread and in my sitch is comunication problems. From this group I have learned a new term, Covert Contracts. W comes from a family culture of these contracts. Certian things should just be known. Good luck, right? wink
So should I find the best way to comunicate the above requirments or continue to be patient?
Thanks for your responce.

Last edited by RR17; 11/29/18 03:31 PM.

M 53 W 54, M since 98
D15, D19
8/2013 discovered EA, W maintained contact with OM
until 10/14
7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
12/17 W says moving out 5/18, W still in home.