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I appreciate the extra info but I'm still not clear. It sounds like she asked what you were thinking and you told her about some sexual fantasy, and she rejected it and it made you mad and you retaliated by telling her she can't go to church. Am I reading that correctly? Seems like you're leaving some huge gaps and expecting us to fill them, which is fine but I can't help but wonder if that communication style (which can lead to a LOT of misunderstanding) extends to your communications with your W. Also that sounds very much like a NMMNG "covert contract".


Dang, I did a really poor job of explaining. There was never any discussion of sex, yesterday. None. W asked what that look is for. I said that I thought she was going to this new church with her friend to avoid being alone here with me. That's it.

She ridiculed that idea. Acting as if it was the most ridiculous idea and furthest from the truth.

Once I told her that I didn't want her to go, she admitted to not wanting to be there and be possibly approached about either sex or an R discussion. The very things that I told her that I was thinking were her motivation to go.

Because the home was empty and W wasn't usually going anywhere. In the past, I had tried to initiate sex. No undue pressure. Just an attempt to initiate that then lead to an R talk in the past.

Hope this is more clear.

BTW, what is a "NMMNG "covert contract"?


M 53 W 54, M since 98
D15, D19
8/2013 discovered EA, W maintained contact with OM
until 10/14
7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
12/17 W says moving out 5/18, W still in home.