Originally Posted by Turbine
I've lost her... some of the worst words I have ever heard.


Sorry, I should have added "for now" to that. I wish I could tell you that you'll reconcile later but I can't. It COULD happen, but it might not happen. I will tell you that if you look at my timeline, it has been a long time since BD and my ex and I get along better now than we have at any other time since BD. All of the anger and resentment and frustration and such that both of us felt is gone. Do we love each other? Yes I think that's still pretty clear. Are we "in love"? No, and I think both of us are completely fine with that (I know I am). But my point is even if you never reconcile, you WILL find peace with that.

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I so want to show her, not tell her or force her or anything else, show her this is wrong. I know... she has to reach that conclusion herself. Can't be force or encouraged or nothing.


That's right, and it will take her a long time.

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I do love her so much. I'm sure there are others here that are in this position with their S. Not sure what sort of comfort there is in that if any.


She loves you too. She refuses to show it right now, but maybe she will again some day.

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I hope that she changes her mind about the D and being separated. She doesn't... ever?


Lots of recons have happened after S and even D. There's no end to hope until you decide there is.

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The sleep thing has been far longer than this actively has been known. Probably since before my Mom died.


You might try a sleep clinic if you think it's not BD-related, one of my friends did and they were able to help him. Not getting proper sleep is miserable!


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57