Well Don my main answer to your points is this...I don't think she truly considered it a date. That's my issue. I can say it is but that means nothing...she has to see it that way too. So what I am saying is that if she thinks me taking her out is just a couple friends hanging out then no... absolutely and positively not. In other words, if she DID see it as a date proper, then to me that technically IS her "working towards R"...with R defined as an all new relationship with me. In that case then yes, you are saying what I've been saying all throughout this drama...that I am willing to be friends for a bit SO LONG as that's not the end goal, that needs to be the start of something, not an end to something. So that's what I mean by my sternness. I'm saying that if I get her to come out and say that essentially R is not an option to her and that she just wants to be friends forever then that's not gonna work for me. If she says she wants to be friends FOR NOW and continue DATING (proper) then I'm all in. Hope this clarifies.
ME: 43 W:44 M 13 years on 5-5-01 T 18 years BD 4/27/14 D papers served 5/5/14 (how appropriate a date) WAW moved out 5/12/14 Papers filed 6/27/14 Divorce granted 07/17/14 Our marriage ends 11/17/14
