Flysolo - how interesting that you just posted that. I am just at that point too. Have worried about how he will perceive me packing some of his stuff away, up until this week that is. I shall just fold it into bags and leave it somewhere out of sight. I have come to see it as him marking his territory. Well, i don't have stuff at his new 'home' so why should he get to leave his mark here. I don't feel as vindictive as it probably sounds but just showing that I am going to carry on regardless.

DejaVu 6 - step forward I think PROVIDED it doesn't leave you to have expectations. I got the same 'I like talking to you when you're being reasonable" talk and I nearly exploded (in secret) with the sheer bare - bottomed cheek of the man. So, if he wants to talk and you have nothing else on at the time, then practice your DB listening skills. I would steer away from R talks though and just see where he wants the conversation to go. Baby steps. He is telling you what he can't cope with and what will make him run for the hills, so take heed if you want to. But perhaps don't make yourself too easily available. He has to realise that you are not just there to be his emotional crutch when he needs one. The consequence of not being in the home and marriage full time is that you are not at his beck and call.