Originally Posted by DonH

OMG, KML thank you for bringing me back off the ledge and keeping me from losing my shlt LOL. I've been trying to explain this concept here for over six months now - must be a dozen times I've tried, yet it's clearly a difficult concept to understand - I guess if you're not in the business. But yes, exactly as KML said - it's more complex - she 100% nailed why. And if it was my money - seriously, giving up nearly $2,000?????? - KML, do you see what I mean how you and I look at money TOTALLY differently than much of the world and how the fact that I might be financially secure means little to most women. smile


No, it's not that difficult a concept to get, Don...even for those of us who are not "in the business". Seems pretty cut and dried actually: the company hires you and provides you with airfare and cruise "passes" and you provide names to occupy those spots (yours and your guest). If your provided name (guest) backs out last minute, you look bad because it looks like you were trying to get one over one someone and have a room to yourself which would seem to scream diva behavior, I would imagine. And, not being a musician, I can WELL imagine that many musicians do NOT want to be viewed as so-called divas because you would get a reputation for being difficult to work with and that would not be good for your earnings or future earnings.

As far as the financially secure thing...I'm glad you clarified that being that way means little to MOST women, because I can assure you that there are some of us in this world who value that way at the top of the list of things we are looking for, not necessarily because we want to be taken care of financially but because we've spent our own lives handling our own sh!t and we don't want to have to take care of someone else. I don't mind being an equal partner in the care-taking in a relationship, but I don't expect a man to financially support me nor am I willing to totally support a man, period. As far as "giving up money", if I was in WG's position, I would do absolutely EVERYTHING in my power to still go on that trip regardless, because if I backed out after I had allowed you to commit me to it (thus committing your own reputation to it), I'd feel like I owed whatever money had to be paid back or put out to make the necessary changes. I'm sure not many people feel that way either, but it was drilled in my head from a very young age to pay my own way in life and I would be damned if I would put someone else between a rock and hard place financially just because I was fickle.

I think that people sorely undervalue those sorts (financial security, loyalty, the value of giving your word, etc.) of things these days in our fast-paced, microwave, gotta have it now, instant gratification society. It's totally insane. But, while I thoroughly enjoy my job, I do earn a salary for doing it and I plan to protect that salary to the best of my ability to give myself the things that I need and the things that I want. It isn't on any man (or any other person for that matter) to do that for me.


Me 52, H53
Bomb drop 9/29/2014
Divorce from XH final 12/17/2014
Marriage #2 12/31/2019
5 adult (step)daughters (3 from XH's first marriage, 2 from current H's previous relationships)
6 grandkids