I will say that not initiating sex for several months has gone a long way with W.

She had said that she thought I only wanted her for sex. Not true. But it was her belief.

Spending time, listening and validating and removing the pressure that I might suggest it when opportunities arise have seemed to have had a very positive effect.


M 53 W 54, M since 98
D15, D19
8/2013 discovered EA, W maintained contact with OM
until 10/14
7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
12/17 W says moving out 5/18, W still in home.