Read through Sandi's threads. And Steve usually chimes in on this specific issue. Basically, you can't 180 on those because it's a "new paradigm" or you missed the boat. She doesn't want to see those changes now. She says those are her concerns, but she has lost attraction to you and now she perceives those attempts as either manipulative or weak. So step 1 is regain her attraction by being a strong, desirable man. Those 180s come later, if/when there's R and MC.
Burned, well said. This nails it. You 180 for yourself, not to change her mind. She will see through it every time.
M(53), W(54),D(19) M-23, T-25 Bomb Drop - Dec.23, 2017 Ring and Piecing since March 2018
