Originally Posted by Did
Dropped off d4 this morning. Had breakfast at w house. We brought the positive energy. W is distancing herself. Says it shouldnt be offensive and it’s ok. She feels like she’s hungover every day and hasn’t been drinking.

She told Me how happy she was and she has butterflies and loves me. Then she pulls away and feels worse... hello?! She seems only to be able to use the emotional side of her brain.


The WAW and especially the WW are flighty creatures that try to satisfy every whim they have as soon as they have it. She is running on pure emotion, you are dead on with this.

Originally Posted by Did
I think sometime soon I have to have a blunt conversation with her. Yes it’ll be critical and she’ll probably cry. But wtf I can’t keep doing this to myself. Yes I want it to work.


STOP BEING SO EMOTIONAL. You just pointed out how she can only use the emotional side of her brain, and then you start falling into the same trap. Just yesterday you said "I am not starting anymore R talks!" And then today "She isn't doing what I want so I am going to have a blunt conversation with her." JUST STOP. Remove all pressure. Remove all pursuit. You've fallen into the classic trap set by WAWs. "I'll have sex with him and then he'll be eating out of my hand again!" REMEMBER!! You were supposed to have ZERO expectations. This is NOT having ZERO expectations.

Originally Posted by Did
I guess back to being less available and not reaching out. Looks like no day date to creek tomorrow. If she says she does want to go I don’t even know what to say. I’m not cool with scraps and back and forth. It hurts.


Why did this ever stop? She should be chasing you, not the other way around. So make her chase. She can't chase when she is being chased. That is called running into each other.

Originally Posted by Did
She sees the 180s is attracted to me. Knows I’m a great guy.


Are you sure? Or is it more about securing Oct. (and nov, and dec, and 2019) support?

Originally Posted by Did
Haven’t paid Oct support.


Good. Don't. Don't even bring it up. If she does tell her, "Oh, our agreement was for 3 months only. I am not okay with extending it beyond that."

Last edited by Steve85; 10/02/18 02:50 PM.
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