eo, Thanks for your help but you are so different from my W. You actually want to improve your situation whereas mine seems to be waiting for it all to blow over so she can get on with her "normal" celibate life. She has absolutely no desire to please me at all and never really has. Reading your posts makes me realise that I am working towards an impossible goal - you are warm hearted but sadly mine has a heart of stone... Unfortunately I broke my vow of not getting angry last night after she started picking on me for speaking during her favourite soap (which was on for a total of one and a half hours). I said no more than a couple of sentences about the plot and I chuckled during the closing scene. She went mad at me and I reacted by telling her to get a grip on reality and a few other home truths. The atmosphere was frosty from then on and neither of us apologised (she never does anyway because she always has to "win" arguments). I'm not sure I want to ML with this woman anymore - she's just too cold hearted and there's just no fun in it. SD