i have decided to take myself out of that equation. the way i see it, if i tell D14 to do something with her mom, then it appears like am ordering her.but if it comes directly from WW, then D14 sees it as asking or a request. I am trying to devote all my love and energy to D14 for a while now. being in this forums, and comparing my sitch to everyone else has made me realize, that our world, mine and D14’s will be better, a whole lot better.