Hi, Everyone -- I know very well what the DB strategy is. I started out as a DB-er five years ago but then I became a Christian and realized that there is a Venn diagram, with one circle as Christianity and one as DBing, and they have a beautiful intersection area. But they are not the same thing. I posted as a Christian speaking to a Christian, what I said would not apply if you are standing for a different reason. And I know it sounds insane if you are not a Christian, I remember. I don't know if my marriage will ever be restored, but I daily experience God's grace in surrendering my desire for restoration to his Will for my life.

Gordie, you have a black belt in standing. You are not going to start writing long love letters and begging and pleading at this point. You don't need to be reminded not to.

I think you know what I meant, but in case you didn't -- I was only encouraging you not to be afraid to say I love you back if you hear it from W, I was encouraging you to be fertile soil when she tries to plant a seed and to walk in God's love. You sounded defeated in your post. I was speaking Christian encouragement because of what you said in response to my question a couple days ago.

Friends, standing out of obedience to God to get closer to Him is a very different project than standing out of obedience to Michele Wiener Davis to get your spouse back.

Gordie is a standing genius, he knows how to DB,and he has all of you to remind him.

Sometimes for a Christian, it's good to hear from someone who lives radically devoted to Christ.

Gordie can figure out which part of the Standing Venn Diagram he needs at any given moment!

Last edited by Gerda; 09/01/18 08:47 PM.

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