New lady is very interested in trying to slow things down with her but don’t want to lose her. She deserves a fresh start. She’s is so kind and caring just seems like such a quality person. We communicate better than w and I ever did. And I am using the same communication skills...

I believe I am going to have a very hard conversations with W. She has called me manipulative said I gaslight her etc. I think she projects. Subconsciously . Yes I may have th she tendancies but it’s a 2 way street. You see what I’m dealing with with her. Big part of me is ready to divorce and move on with my life.

Ovr I am not hurting. I am just indecisive on turning the page. I’m happier without W but with d4.

Steve I agree with her motivation. I’m going to tell her point blank. I’m going to write some notes down and talk to her about her manipulating support being her motivation etc. yes she’s is extremely good at it. I don’t think she does it intentionally. But this is who she is. She has always won the verbal debates between us. I used to say why do you always have to win.

Reality in my eyes this marriage is pretty much over. I honestly feel like I could be happier with someone else and have a better life long term. This Is a marriage saving website so I know it may not be what you want to hear. But that’s my honest true feelings. She would have to make huge 180s and I don’t think she’s even close. I think the manipulation goes back to issues from her childhood and she doesn’t realize it at all.

Thank you all for your support


H: 33 W:32
M: 5 T: 8
D: 4
BD: 6/2017
MO: 6/2017
House sold: 6/28/18
W wants to build friendship / relationship- 9/18
Paying $ support since 7/18.
Physical Reconnect- 10/18
W Starts- IC / MC - 10/18