Hi Steve85,
Well my friend my analysis of what's going on with WAW is probably a combination of your bullet points. My take on it based on my interactions with her is this. I think she has not at all ruled out the possibility of R with me, BUT she is not sure because there were parts of herself that she lost when she was with me. She's worked so hard to prove to herself that she can get by on her own steam I think a part of her feels like she'd give some of that progress up if she was to R with me. I think her plan now is pretty much the way I described our sitch to her that Monday when she showed up at my work. That if we end up getting back together, great, if we end up in the sack in a month great...if not that's fine too. I had told her my life is going to lead me to wherever I'm supposed to be and I'm just going with it. So I think that's where she's at...that we will see what happens. So I do not believe she herself even knows what will end up happening with us...so she's playing the friend card for now as a way to get me back in her life.

Now I probably should have mentioned this in my previous post but for whatever reason...I don't think she really was on a date tha night before we met up. It sounded like a fabricated story to me for some reason...generic details, etc. I just remember thinking to myself as she was telling me how bad it was that this story isn't true and she's trying to get my good or something. So I am not really confident that date she described really even happened. I can't explain it but I'm sure all of you have been in a similar situation...where someone is telling you a story and for whatever reason your gut tells you it's not true as you listen. That's how that felt to me. Why she would make up a story like that is unknown but I feel like it was a fabrication. However in either case this had no bearing on my decision but I thought I'd share that with you.

So I think in WAW's head he wants to take it slow with a friendship and see what is going to happen. The problem here become me as I have run out of patience. I personally have not seen enough progression to stay the current course so I'm not wasting any more time. She either has to pick up the pace here or definitively decide to keep dating stooges who will never be as good as me. But this last visit, for whatever reason, is the final straw with me. I think she needs to be reminded of life without me in it again...she's gotten too comfortable with me kicking around again. She's admitted during her years in Florida that she stalked me, she's admitted she asked people about me, she's admitted I appeared in her dreams quite often, she's admitted she missed our sex, she's admitted she's kept in contact with a few of my family members. All of these things tell me that her time in Florida wasn't as me-free as she probably intended it to be when she left. That tells me a lot. That tells me she hadn't come to terms with her feelings for me, that she had unresolved feelings. Now I didn't stalk her at all... didn't keep tabs, etc. One because DBing forbids that but two because I just didn't see a reason for it. She was gone and that was that.
So I truly don't believe she can survive without me in her life...I don't. She's made that clear since she came back around...which coincidentally was right after my serious relationship with Mary ended. All of this adds up to NOT someone wanting an admitted temporary friendship...what it does add up to is a woman who clearly needs her ex in her life. So for now I step away a bit. WAW needs to be reminded of what life was like without me...what it was like to dream about me, what it was like to have to stalk me, etc. I believe she's still in love with me deep down inside her. However I have no interest whatsoever being an archaeologist and digging for those feelings anymore. She needs to do that on her own. She knows full well she will never have with some other dude what she had with me. She knows I'm a rare breed and she knows my value as it compares to her parade of stooges she was dating.
So that's pretty much my take on it Steve my friend. smile

Hi Ste7e,
Oh well that makes sense I guess. Yeah I don't need her. That's where that comes from. Not to boast but women love me. So dropping WAW like a prom dress is not an issue. Mainly because I am so, so confident that she'll come sniffing around again soon. I am 100 percent convinced she will somehow keep squirming back somehow. I even knew over the 4 years that she'd be the one to eventually give in and contact me. So I think that's what you sense in me, the confidence you sense. It's because I can up and decide to go dark and know for certain she will be back over and over again. In fact I give it a month tops of me not hanging with her before she says something. But she will...which is a nice segway into Nicole's comments...

Yes Nicole, I will simply tell her I'm booked or I have plans. I'm just going to go back to doing all the things I used to do on weekends. Date more women, hang with my pals, go see bands, and work sometimes. I don't owe her specific explanations as to what I'm doing. I'm busy is the best she's going to get. Then I'm sure stalking me with her FB spies will commence again. It seems to me if she spends time stalking me during my absence...which she undoubtedly will...that speaks volumes. So that's all...I'm just going to make other plans and if she asks to hang out I am declining.


ME: 43 W:44
M 13 years on 5-5-01
T 18 years
BD 4/27/14
D papers served 5/5/14 (how appropriate a date)
WAW moved out 5/12/14
Papers filed 6/27/14
Divorce granted 07/17/14
Our marriage ends 11/17/14