Pam - I reposted it from Bluekeys thread, and I know what you're saying. I was struck too by how bitter the people on that board sounded, and felt grateful that I found THIS board and not that one when I needed it. Still, I found the extremes of alien behavior that they described weirdly hilarious and sad at the same time. Just drives home how completely irrational the aliens can be - and how sadly lost, too.