Originally Posted by Gordie

And yes I have heard the no one did that for me speech how did you know about that speech and the psychic and emotional damage


I know about it because I've heard it, repeatedly. and the psychic and emotional damage ... I lived with his for 26 years ... I'm also dealing with the psychic and emotional damage inflicted intentionally by a vindictive, angry, broken man-child.

Originally Posted by gordie

There was of course total attention on her before there were kids And then babies came and I felt her total attention was on them and I was okay with that because I thought that was the way it was supposed to be

Yes I felt I was de prioritized and in hindsight shifted my attention to my career and the children which I feel was my biggest contribution to the breakdown of the M where she eventually felt I paid no attention to her and no longer valued and cherished her


Well, I treated my exh like a rock star, then we had our son. We both put him ahead of each other. It hurt me at times, but I also thought that was the natural progression. For regular people, that IS a natural progression - by regular people I mean people who are mature - who have the ability to see that everything is fluid - at some point the kids grow up, leave home and then it's the couple again.

Originally Posted by Gordie


Thank you butterfly for giving me a lot to think about
You're welcome. I hope it helps you breathe easier.


M 20+ T25+
S ~15.5 (BD)
BD 4/6/15
D 12/23/16

"Someone I loved once gave me
A box full of darkness.
It took me years to understand,
That this too, was a gift."
~ Mary Oliver