Thanks Nicole, V, Blu and DB346. Yes at this time his moving out is for the best. Life will be crazy difficult with such small children, running the house hold and a full time job. But my kids are worth it, every bit of this and more. V, makes sense, he has been very selfish with money too which again is so unlike the old him. Blu, thanks for your inputs. All of you who have lived thru this can see things that newbies like me cannot. I made severe mistakes for 2 months, begged, pleaded, cried, stopped eating and sleeping, took all the blame he laid upon me, told him truthfully that I was thinking of killing myself. I felt that before I turned 35 my life was over and having 2 small babies I was helpless. Over time with more perspective and help of this forum I realized it wasn’t me. But I still stumbled a lot, failed to set boundaries and let him get away with bad behavior. Since all this has started I have not fought with him though, which is a huge 180 for me, first out of shock, then out of hope that he may change if I massage his ego, then by fear to some degree but mostly because I did not feel the need to. i now am able to see a weak, broken person that I once loved more than my own self, I played a role in th decay of the MR I wasn’t perfect but I would move mountains to make it good for the sake of my children and because I believed in us. I don’t think it’s an A, I think he’s mentally lost it and I also know I will not be the first or last of idiotic W who believes their H is not capable of this. When he comes back (yes I believe it is a when) and if I decide to take him back there is a lot of pain and trust issues to overcome. I rely heavily on advice I get from this forum to work thru this, I try my best to act on the suggestions here because if you are too close to the sitch you miss the obvious I am doing my best to turn this around and R, but most of all I WILL give my Ds the best in the world with or without him