Ste7e, you're only 4 months post-BD. I know it seems like forever but you are expecting too much too soon from your W. It is going to take her 3 to 6 times that long before she starts coming out of the fog. And D may very well happen inbetween. You've got to have immense patience! Try and take the long view, remember that NO MATTER WHAT SHE SAYS NOW there is still hope for a recon later. I've seen marriages restored from the most outrageously impossible situations.