hongaku - great points! Thank you, this gives me some hope. Well even though it makes me feel like crap (probably because I do have NGS and its a work in progress for sure) we did talk about her and I did make eye contact and think positive thoughts while looking at her. Even though I was like this is boring as F and I understand youre tired and your dark circles under your eyes are not nearly as bad as mine as Im working 12 hours a day... you still look sexy as hell but no I did not say any of that.

For example, you need to have clear boundaries of respect for yourself and your own masculinity and if she were to try and tell you about another man she is interested in or anything like that, assert yourself and make clear that you are not interested in hearing about such things. - She is not seeing anyone, she is not talking about any other men. I have set boundaries about respect and not wanting to hear any of that. She is talking about family, her 1 or 2 girlfriends and work. She is sharing things about her life with me. I guess I should feel lucky that I have a career and can go to the beach with friends for lacrosse tournaments or play professionally if I choose to - GAL

But generally, you want to be there for her to talk to and to think of you again as someone she WANTS to talk to about her life. - She is talking to me about her life!

You just need to be an active listener, show empathy, validation and agreement when you get chances to talk with her. - I did this, while playing with D3 so I couldnt ignore her but I think I did well today. Is it normal for it to feel like crap and really 1 sided and to feel worse after these interactions? When / how does this shift... I guess if she wants to work on the relationship and chooses to?

Forget about yourself for the time being (in terms of interactions with her; obviously continue to focus on yourself with GAL and such), forget about the MR for the time being and just focus on re-connecting. - I will try!

Keep following the 37 rules and keep DBing! - I will

We ended with a hug and I told her I hope she has fun with her friend, send me a marg. Im impatient its a fault I need to work on it along with many other things.

Part of NGS is learning to say what you want to get your needs met... but I guess that will be somewhere down the road if we R.

Thanks again.


H: 33 W:32
M: 5 T: 8
D: 4
BD: 6/2017
MO: 6/2017
House sold: 6/28/18
W wants to build friendship / relationship- 9/18
Paying $ support since 7/18.
Physical Reconnect- 10/18
W Starts- IC / MC - 10/18