Thanks for the info V.

I spoke with S and he said he was comfortable with T trying to bridge the gap between him and W

OK. No it's not depression. It is because what they are doing isn't giving the results they wanted. It gives results that create enormous stress.

That doesn't mean the actions weren't the underlying need for W. This was something she decided but the situation with S has been a consequence she didn't envisage. It creates stress.

W is stressed not depressed. As a result it's aging her and there is nothing she can do.

I doubt it's a defence of yours, it's an observation and real. She is aging in front of your eyes and it is unlikely to reverse.


Vanilla can you tell me does this bring back W to want to R?
Does it make W more firm in her stance to D?
I know you say you cannot guilt a WW/WAW but does the guilt eventually get to them.
How do they cope with all this added amount of stree?

Thank you for your explanations.


M51 w50
T-20Yrs M-16Yrs
S15- mad at W for not trying and giving up
1 Awesum dog
BD 10/31/17
separate rooms 02/08/18
wife moved out 05/17/18