Ovrrnbw...so to be clear I have not and will not give up. I will always be praying and hopeful that somehow yet my W may have interest in giving a new MR a chance with me. I do have to be realistic though which is right now she is full speed towards D.

Our conversation from my last post was civil. It had been a very long time since we had spoken on our R. W admitted she had faults in the R and I did too, but she felt we got to being roommates and she said she can't go back. It's my belief that many parents of young children find themselves in the early years so defined, but together can turn it around. We simply put no real effort into our R after our D was born during day to day life, BUT we had taken several trips and always had a great time together as we did pre-baby.

It is heartbreaking to hear W say she knows that we both have grown/learned during our time apart yet when I asked her should we not then give it a shot to see if our changes could save us, she says she's can't. And let's be clear my not shaving my beard closely everyday was NOT the reason she left. I am sure the roommate feeling which came from us not truly telling each other what we needed in our MR is the root cause AND there may be an OM involved as well. As I found elsewhere on this site: the lack of true communication is what caused this, your inability to communicate your real needs to your spouse.

I really do appreciate your support! I do love her, but it takes both to save us and at least as of now she is "saying" no to that idea. As I say there is time yet and I will continue to pray/be hopeful while at the same time working very hard on improving myself and being the best Dad I can be for my D. Any and all comments are welcome/appreciated.

Thank you again ovrrnbw for the pep talk it means a great deal to me during a very tough time in my life.


Me:34 W:40
D1:4
M:7 T:8
BD:3/18
D Final: 6/19