As sandi says, it usually takes something to snap them out of it
Steve thanks for the info- but would not loosing your S be a big enough impact to snap out of it?

Buddy, leave it alone. She will either permanently screw up her relationship with her S or not. S will be fine.
Thanks RR- this is my full intention.

Your S needs one great parent, that's you. And you are doing a great job.

Thanks V- I needed to hear that because often times I fell I am failing or not doing enough. Such great support!

If she is not involved with S, it is sad and her loss. As a mother I cannot understand that ever, wayward or not. But she has made her choice, and your love and care is enough for your S. Cherish the bond you have. I know people say its worse because you have kids and you cannot go completely dark, but I think thank god for the kids, it is them and our love for them that will get us through.

Arsh your words ring the truth! I- like you believe the kids now need us so much and we need them in return . A true symbiotic relationship. Where we all have one another to thrive and survive. Thanks!


M51 w50
T-20Yrs M-16Yrs
S15- mad at W for not trying and giving up
1 Awesum dog
BD 10/31/17
separate rooms 02/08/18
wife moved out 05/17/18