[quote=sandi2] If that's how you feel, then don't use them. They were written to a general audience of newcomers who arrive without any idea of how to get started. [quote]
yet again, just because i point out something i noticed doesn't apply 100% to MY Sitch or that i may partially disagree with doesnt mean i think the whole list is a flawed mess. Why is it that there is no middle ground on this forum, either you follow advice 100% or you offend the person who gave the advice. your rules are gold. i just feel like the ones i listed as not being applicable to me are because they require you to be around / See your WW.
[quote=sandi2]You say the rules conflict with your sitch. Is this an example? Because this applies to people who actually see and talk to one another! If you have a TRO, then the assumption is that you aren't going to be seeing each other face to face and making eye contact when she speaks.[quote]
See above.
33 - I CAN practice the "Don't give up hope" but several people have counciled against that, including you Sandi.
[quote=sandi2]Now look, I tried to honestly answer what questions I could. I told you it was unlikely that she would suddenly show up at your door and be genuinely changed back into that girl you thought you M, and that it would probably take her getting professional help before she changed for the better. You plainly told me that you would not take her back.....and now you want to come back and say I gave contradicting advice? [quote]
No Sandi. That is NOT what i said at all, not even close. I have said to you several times i value your input more than most as you offer advice from a viewpoint i find to be most valuable in understanding WW. What i said was that some advice from some members is contradictory to advice given by other members.
I agree that she would need professional help before she made any changes, i have agreed with you on that from Day 1. And what i said was i would only consider taking her back under the following circumstances.
1. She had been seeing IC, and making progress. 2. told me the whole story of her affair. 3. PROVED, time and time again through ACTION that she was looking to regain my trust. 4. provide full transparancy 5. produce an outline on how her behaviors manifest internally and what shes doing to control them.
If i had ever said "I wont take her back" its because i believe these things are never going to occur.
M: 35, EX-W: 3, S:4 All Divorce Proceedings Complete - Oct 18 ----------------------------------------------------- 2nd EX - Was Engaged - Diagnosed BPD 2 Major breakups. 2 Rebounds