Thanks Arista but can you see how I am getting all different and oftentimes contradictory advice here.

I don't read this.

Some say I should take initiative and ask her on a date and some say I should back off.

Read my post above.

Also confusing is how does WAW possibly think that rejecting me for the concert, and then rejecting the Vegas idea is in ANY way supposed to prompt me to take initiative about our relationship?

It isn't supposed to do that.

Isn't asking her to a concert doing exactly that?

No, not when the alternative is getting drunk over a long evening and sleeping on her couch. I think we did say go do something else instead.


Isn't offering to go to Vegas when she was clearly hinting at such doing exactly that? Just trying to sort out the confusion here because I feel like some of the advice here is contradictory.

It isn't.

Specifically I guess what I'm asking is what exactly do you mean by back off? I don't really do anything to back off from...she has initiated every sinhle thing.

Exactly! To be clear when going round isn't moving you forward. STOP! Do something else.

In fact I don't text her at all ever. She always finds a reason to text me. Maybe I should change my screen name to "It'sConfusing" LOL!

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Is this clear?

V


Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose.
V 64, WAW