Thanks for your reply Davide, I have read your sitch with interest, there are many similarities. For example, I moved out to give her space, she is stubborn and still hasn't mentioned the D word.

There hasn't been any ground rules for separation, visitation plan or any plan, as she has refused any talk about anything like this since BD. The kids do come to my house once or twice a week and I see them at our family home. I could insist on only seeing them outside the family home, but it would definitely result in me seeing them less and reduce their level of normality.

However I am willing to do that if it will stop my pushing W further away.I'm not sure if my WAW qualifes for WW or MLC yet, but I have been reading Sandi's advice regarding WW's with great interest. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to stop pushing my W away and hopefully allow MR and reconciliation talk. To be honest I am hoping to detach to enable this while still seeing my W and kids at our family home everyday - does this sound unrealistic?

Thanks


LBH 47 WW 47, M 15 T 18
D 11 S 14
BD, I moved out (duped) Jan 18
3 yr EA with ex-H discovered: Feb 18
I moved back in: Aug 18 (against her wishes)
...No R No M/C, continued limbo, dropping the rope!