Originally Posted By: sandi2
OMG.......just read about the conversation with WW. Why didn't you talk about it before contacting her? It was so obvious what was eating at you. Maybe we could have talked off you off the ledge.


I know. Stupid Stupid Stupid.


Originally Posted By: sandi2
It doesn't matter. There is nothing you can do about it. And she knows you can't do anything about it.......so it make the whole conversation look useless and makes you look weak.


How is standing up for whats right for my son weakness?
I have some conflicts with the techniques ill go into in a min. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to some of the contradictions i see.


Originally Posted By: sandi2
Really? Both of you were snarling and nipping around each other's ankles. So, yeah.... I completely agree with JujuB.


Agree with JuJu in what regard?
I just dont think she gave it much thought once the conversation was over.

Originally Posted By: sandi2
I'll have to see it before I believe it. smile


I look forward to proving it smile



Originally Posted By: sandi2
All those questions you've wanted to know about why she does this or why she said that? Even when a logical response would serve her better.......she'll lie, deny, down play, minimize, or whatever pops into her looney-tune head. Nothing about her is logical. The sooner you can stop expecting her to give truthful, logical responses.......the sooner you will stop driving yourself crazy wondering why she gave such a illogical response. Actually, there are some LBH's questions that sound pretty illogical, but I'm not saying this happens to be one.


A hard lesson that took far too long to sink in, but its landed.


Originally Posted By: sandi2
Honestly, Orange, I'm not fussing at you. I am actually trying to use a little humor and get you to look at some of the questions asked, and realize nobody would be able to give you the precise answer.....but WW herself. In some cases, even the WW couldn't tell you why she said or did something. At the time she "felt" it was the thing to do......and since she operates strictly on "feelings", then that's her go-to plan. Not logic.


Its enough to drive you mad. Logic is just that. Logic. Do what logically makes sense. How can anyone go through life NOT operation based on logic??

Lastly, as i mentioned earlier, contradictions. Please take this with a grain of salt, as I still see FAR MORE value in what ive learned here than may be implied by the below message, but just to play The Devils Advocate, here goes.

Maybe its because my sitch is particularly volitlie and destructive, but some of the DB techs seem to be counter productive. By all means correct me if i am wrong.

My wife, married me, and within 4 months was WW and looking for AP, she found him, lied for almost a year, and destroyed our new lives and family.

So my go to plan to to just leave her alone, do nothing and lay down and let what happened go un-discussed, un-resolved and basically just forget about it all and move on with my life.

How does this convey any message to her other than that she won, she did what she wanted, got what she wanted and paid no consequences at all for the awful $hi77y things she did, and will continue to do?

I feel like the things ive learned here and have been applying have helped ME, which they are intended to do, but they are also intended to GAL and be the better person, and maybe win WW back.
That isn't going to happen. It isn't my goal. So why lay down and play Mr. Cool and Complacent while she marches on through life thinking she did nothing wrong and that I am the @$$h0le?

It feels like im just letting her win, and get away scott free, and that ill just play the role of the meek, defeated NC/ Greystone when this is all said and done?

that doesnt sit well with me.
If R was the end goal for me, this would make sense.
But she is a parasitic destructive force of nature, diplomacy isn't going to do jack cr@p with her, so why bother?


M: 35, EX-W: 3, S:4
All Divorce Proceedings Complete - Oct 18
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2nd EX - Was Engaged - Diagnosed BPD
2 Major breakups.
2 Rebounds