Vanilla - your post into your difficult past relationship shows what you had to endure. For you to come out in great shape and for you to want to pay it forward is so appreciated.

In regards to my W -I have always said she was a great mom,It was only when she made the decision to quit on the M is when I saw someone TOTALLY different. In regards to my S15 what he told me is that he has seen that I have done EVERYTHING that I can for this R. What he doesn't understand is that he's seen me as being totally respectful and giving thru out his whole life. He's never sen me yell, swear, be violent, cheat, or abuse my W. He believes my wife just bailed and quit on her family. That's his words.

My W would ask why doesn't he like me? It goes back to the old saying, " you get what you give" . I am going to coach my sons baseball team shortly and have not missed a baseball, soccer, swimming, band concert , chess tournament. My W only goes to a handful of events. I've asked my W- when was the last time you did something with him that was just for him? Not forcing him to do something you wanted to do. She did not have an answer.

By no means am I super dad- I have many faults. Too many to share. But I can tell you without hesitation that nobody will love my S like me!!

My thought was not to guilt my W into coming back. It was my projecting my own feelings of loss- Meaning if I were to do something that would cause me to lose my S. I would stop all actions in a heartbeat!! It's a wonder my W once a Godly woman- does not show one ounce of remorse. I just wanted to know what was going thru the mind of someone in this position.


M51 w50
T-20Yrs M-16Yrs
S15- mad at W for not trying and giving up
1 Awesum dog
BD 10/31/17
separate rooms 02/08/18
wife moved out 05/17/18