I defer to others who may know better

I never had to snoop or find out because w told me directly

Do you need to know

What would that do for you

Would that embolden you

I am a fan of asking directly

But I do not know your dynamics well enough if that would work for you

The expectations thing is hard

It is related to the saying your old m is dead even if you are not divorced

Only then can you get to zero and even then it is hard


Gordie 40s W 40s M20+ kids
2016 BD W fantasy affair w OM1 I do everything wrong
2017 I start to DB W says TLTL files for D PA w OM2
2018 I do LRT W drops filing and OM2 situation slowly improving