Anotherstander, You are right. I can see that. I'm trying to figure out how to do it. It is easy to say it, a lot harder to do it. I'm sure it was for everyone on here. Honestly I don't want her gone. But part of me does so that I can get on, and don't have to see her. I told her she can't just come by any more. If she wants her stuff great, come get it, but don't take 3 hours to pack two boxes. Get your stuff and go. Maybe not the right things to say, or way to say it but I need her down the road right now for my stability if that makes sense. As far as my daughter goes, she is having a rough time, I think it helps her to be able to talk to me. I also think it helps me to be able to talk to her. She has tried to talk to her mom, but she will not give her the time of day. In time I believe she will, but not right now. So if there is any I can be there for her I will. When we do talk, I don't bash her mother. I tell her, look, this is really hard on your mom as well and everyone handles things differently. All you can do is try to talk to her, and if she talks to you great. If not, she will eventually.