Things moving fast. Twists & turns.(hoosjim's 15th

[hoosjim]

BTW, how did OM react when your W gave him the "get lost" phone call?

It was very quick. "Hoosjim is hete, too. I'm married, i love my husband, this is what i want, you need to leave me and my family alone." W kept it together pretty good. Om was his sometimes charming "what, me?" self... "sorry if I caused any problems.. just trying to stay friends with y'all", etc. Yeah, right. Be friends with me by calling my W and leaving messages saying how much you're "into" her. Ended it as "Just stay away". The letter was more explicit "Ive told hoosjim everything... no secrets between us... keep calling and we'll get a restrainING order followed by arrest"

Nothing heard from the guy since. Unless it's the ticket being paid. Both W and I changed our numbers, and W enlisted her Christian friend at work to help keep her on track and to field any calls from OM, which she says have not come. Supposedly, before bff blocked him, he had told her that he was worried about my text threats, thst I "sounded crazy", which I suppose is not completely unfair...:)

how would paying this ticket gain him any favor if no one knows that he did it? it is quite the mystery... who paid the ticket??? are you positive your son did not pay it?

You don't know this guy. He is not only extremely manipulative but extremely patient... master of the long game. He very easily could have done it to keep in his back pocket as a later "reveal". He also knows how the system in this county works (he has numerous police and ems contacts as a wrecker driver) and could easily have assumed we would infer thst it was him based on the controlling dynamics: whoever did it did it intentionally, knowing they were paying S18's ticket. People who knew and had a motive to do such a thing is an extremely small group. Basically him.S18 had nothing to fain by doing so. I already knew about accident and ticket as he called me from scene, and I told him well before date of payment that we would be going to court to try to get it held in abeyance in exchange for driver improvement course. Plus he doesn't have that much cash laying around. Definitely wasn't S18

Vanilla:

Firstly he would need the ticket references, to have got the cash from the bank.

Known where to go to pay, then paid.

Someone put him up to this, asked him to do it.

It's not good, stinks of WW in cohorts with OM and BFF.

It smells. Dead fish smell bad.

I think you are having the wool pulled over your eyes and it's unlikely it is S. I also understand trying to resolve this for S as it's complex, but you can't keep bailing him out of jams.

If S knows who paid then that would be a BIG stressor.

This ball of wax string needs unravelling.

Nah, you misunderstand how that system works, here. It's no secret where the courthouse is here, and he's familiar with it anyway from having to give periodic witness testimony there in connection with accident cases. More importantly, as I posted previously, you do not need any ticket or even the ticket number to pay. Anyone can pay by just walking in and saying "I want to pay hoosjims ticket. Clerk of court will look it up for you. They don't even check your i.d. All they care about is getting paid. OM/bff/WW plot makes zero sense anyway... why? As to bailing son out, no one's bailing anyone out of anything except me bailing my self out of higher insurance rates. S18 will pay me back the legal fees, fine, and insurance deductible out of his summer job. May take him all summer to pay me back, but he will. Plus he's suffering by not having a car to drive for the forsee able future. Finally, as stated above, S18 has/had nothing to gain and also had something to lose by paying oFF the fine in advance. My kids have faults but stupidity is not one of them.