No affair, no feelings...is there hope?

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I wholeheartedly, 100% disagree with this sentiment.

The way I see it, you need to live your life as if she is not going to 'come around'. Part of that means accepting that the relationship is over.

That does not at all mean that you need to stop wanting to save your marriage. What if I told you that doing ^^^ IS the best way to save your marriage?

Hmm, well in my mind there are two versions of moving on and accepting she is gone.

The kind I think doodler means is the true, 100% IDGAF anymore I am over and done with you kind. So, what I meant was I can't do IDGAF and simultaneously want to save the marriage because that, by definition, is GAF.

The kind that I would assume you mean is the best way to save a marriage is the loving something and letting it go kind. Accepting that she may very well be gone, not fighting it, and getting on with life despite GAF. Like you said, living as if she's gone. Am I wrong and they are somehow the same?