They say no R talks. I thought that was to take the pressure off your w. But it also saves you the heartache of hearing all the crazy and contradictory stuff floating around their heads?

An ultimatum? It’s up to you but only if you are really done and willing to follow through with it. And only you know that. If you don’t know if you are ready, then you are not. Wait until you know in your soul it is right for you. Don’t make any emotional decisions. If it’s all too much right now, take a few days away from her and settle yourself down.


Gordie 40s W 40s M20+ kids
2016 BD W fantasy affair w OM1 I do everything wrong
2017 I start to DB W says TLTL files for D PA w OM2
2018 I do LRT W drops filing and OM2 situation slowly improving