Many thanks for the real talk responses, they are helpful.
Yes read the DR book but should probably read it again slower and let the info sink in...Im a pretty smart guy and because of that don’t listen or read in a way that lets things really sink in...I think I already know the answers but clearly that is a character fault I need to 180 because it is not helping me at all.

No I have not made a 180 list yet but that sounds like a great place to start! Is there a good reference or chapter in DR for identifying which things need a 180?

And yes I admit I am needy and clingy ... add that to my 180 list...and also admit that although W and I are great together as people the OR did become miserable.


M 40 W 34
Together 7 Married 2
No Kids
BD 1/18 need space
Moved out 2/18
ILYBNILWY & Asked for D 3/18
W filed for D 6/18
D final 10/18