Thats great tim. I especially like what you said about the hug. I've been paying attention to it too. What's funny is that my D5 will sometimes call me back into her room at night for 1 more hug. I used to "reject" it because I assumed that she was being excessively needy and needs to learn to soothe herself but after reading Gottman, I've learned not to do that. I now go back in and give her a hug and I can consistently count 8 mississippi before she lets go. It makes me wonder if she still has the infant pattern.

OMG!!! THAT'S IT!!! Sorry tim for doing this on your thread but I just correlated a behavior my parents did to me...they rejected physical attention despite me asking for it. They would even say, "stop being a baby". I just realized that I was passing down a legacy that might cause our D5 to end up here in 30 years chatting with honeypot's kids.

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