Because, you are not dealing with an adult. You are dealing with a Girls Gone Wild, I want what I want, selfish, crazy, irrational and illogical WW.

Think about it. Most of these WW had it all. My wife didn't have to lift a finger. (Sure I would criticize her for that but she still never lifted a finger.) All of her financial needs were met. She has a great family (not perfect, but great). She is respected by friends and family, and our church. She is very involved with the ladies at church, and involved in the church as well.

Most would look at our life as a family and say "I want that!" No money worries, great house in a great location.

But then the self focus starts. "I want what I want." "I gave up my career (very happily and willingly at the time I might add!), dreams, ambition and self for him and our daughter!" "I am turning 50 and I want to live for me now!"

Her and my D are very close. Yet on BD, and for a while after, she was talking about moving into an apartment and having our D over for "sleep overs". HUH?? Irrational. Selfish.

Her attitude was: "I want to give up a life of luxury that I have for one of scraping by and barely making it!" But as sandi2 would point out, it is because she is focused on being Girls Gone Wild, I want what I want, selfish, crazy, irrational and illogical, and most of all: WAYWARD!

Heck the one online dating profile even described herself as "a good girl but with a bit of rebelliousness". HUH?? The woman I've known for 21 years has never been rebellious! Where did that come from??

So yes, sitting down like the adults we are and discussing things lovingly, with respect, and openly (no dishonesty) would be great. But when it comes to a WW that isn't going to happen until they go through sandi2's steps to ending their waywardness.

M(53), W(54),D(19)
M-23, T-25 Bomb Drop - Dec.23, 2017
Ring and Piecing since March 2018