Has anyone been watching "Married at First Sight"? It's this show on Bravo where three couples who have never met their spouce get married. They have done like a dozen marriages now. They are all real. If you want out, you have to get a real D. No way in hell I'd ever do this. Amazingly the first couple is still married and just had a baby. I think one of the other first couples are married yet as well. Most tried but went on to D.
It's very fascinating on many levels including sex. In the current round they have all been married just over two weeks. They have gone on a romantic honeymoon, moved in together and spent every day and night together. One of the couples is yet to have sex. After 6 weeks, they have to decide if they will stay together or get a D. Last year one of the couples never had sex at time of the 6 week decision yet they stayed together - for another six months. So they were married and together 7.5 months AND STILL NEVER HAD SEX!!!
I bring this up to illustrate how there is no norm. There are people on these boards who are married and have not had sex in years. When I think of all of that, the third date for a planned sleep over is, for me, rushing things. That's just me. Can't say I'm right or wrong. I can say no one would claim you are taking things slow - which is clearly the G pattern. I really hope history is not repeating itself here - and it may well not be. I just have to wonder if you keep getting the same results because you keep doing the same things? Just something to consider.
I watch this show, Don, as it absolutely fascinates me. People in general fascinate me. I'm definitely a people watcher and let's be honest here... somewhat of a people judger. I mean, honestly, it is hard not to assume and judge and I don't necessarily mean in a harsh way. But the 3 couples this time are really interesting to me from the standpoint of how they have approached the whole sex thing, with the one couple having sex on the first night and the Barbie and Ken couple still not having sex. But, I think that illustrates both the point I made earlier and the point you made in your post...it is different for everyone. I used to be a wait at least 3 dates and see what happens from thee, but now I lean more toward what kml said about I'm ok with casual sex as long as I am attracted to and comfortable with someone and I know that is the intention from the get go. I don't necessarily actively pursue that sort of relationship, but they do happen and as long as everyone knows that is what is happening, I'm good with that.
Me 52, H53 Bomb drop 9/29/2014 Divorce from XH final 12/17/2014 Marriage #2 12/31/2019 5 adult (step)daughters (3 from XH's first marriage, 2 from current H's previous relationships) 6 grandkids