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I understand her resentment and defensive stand, but I also know she has to figure how to get out of it. Hopefully, the MC will help her figure it out. Anything further about intensive sessions, as suggested by your W?


Yeah, we are, as she suggested/offered, going for a full day on 2/21. Four and a half hours of intensive counselling. Some of which, she said, she would agree to do as IC.

Yes, the moment with the phone was a missed opportunity. OTOH, as you said, she is not scanning her messages before she gives it to me, so that is something, although i do know that she has deleted some texts between her and bff... at bff's insistence, but that could be anything, including about bff's ongoing divorce from my own best friend... though I HAVE told my W that i dont think we should have any secrets from each other...about anything.

Her initial excuse, way back when, for the password on the phone, the same day she sort of defensively gave it to me, was that she "leaves it laying out on her desk alot" at work and doesn't want it to be unlocked in case someone takes it or picks it up. Of course, i work in the defense industry and we have MAJOR security concerns, and i never have a lock on my phone. AAR, I plan to bring it up next opportunity. You explain the transparency concept very well, although i am pretty sure i have, in the past, couched it in terms of being there "for the both of us."





Any take on the 50th birthday and/or the proposed "girls weekends." (Both the other girls going on those are divorced/single, FWIW)

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