Originally Posted By: hoosjim
There certainly seem to be a lot of counselors, gurus, and whatnot out there however who seem to think marriages can be restored without separation so... either they or you guys gotta be wrong.


I understand that you would take their advice over ours.

Based on the above statement we need more information. Are the "gurus" talking about both people being committed to the marriage or just one?

I will again repeat what my MC said "if two people come in committed to the M that D is not an option she has a 99.9% of restoring a healthy marriage. If two people come in and neither or only 1 are committed she has roughly a 0% chance of restoring the marriage"