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artista #2774279 01/07/18 04:14 PM
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She is used to YOU caving... Mean culpa!

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Art;

She has printed out the dissolution files and filed everything out as far as out assets. She gave them to me on a just in case basis. Meaning; if we choose to file the dissolution; this will already be done and we would then just both need to sign everything and submit it to the court.


M:30 W:28
T:9 MR:2.5
NoKids
Seperation 1: 9/16-12/16
Move back in: 1/17
BD: 8/15
She moved out: 9/1
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EDIT: "She has printed out the dissolution files/paperwork and filled everything out as far as our assets. She gave them to me on just a - in case we decided to file basis. Meaning; if we choose to file the dissolution; this will already be done and we would then just both need to sign everything and submit it to the court."


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Just got a “When can we talk” text. Advice?


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chris19 #2774591 01/09/18 10:16 AM
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I know it's hard, but do not respond.

What is there to talk about? There's nothing to stop her from saying what she wants to say in a text.


Me-47,XW-43
S13,S16
M:18
BD:4-23-17
W filed:7-17-17
(5 months of in-house separation hell)
W moved out:1-6-18
D granted:2-15-18
Decree signed:3-29-18

Your future is out there. Go find it.
Holding #2774599 01/09/18 11:19 AM
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Chris, when i decided to approach my husband about reconciliation, i did not send a text with a terse: "when can we talk?" i called him... i asked him if he would be willing to meet with me... we had been legally separated--living apart--for 2.5 years at that point... i approached him humbly... i was not calling the shots... my demeanor told him that i was aware of that... he was willing to meet with me; however, his demeanor said that it didn't make a difference to him whether or not we met up... and that demeanor happened without his trying... that is how he really felt... and it did not come across as smug or unkind-at all... he was friendly, nice... but he was way passed hanging on to every word or nuance i expressed...

he had no idea why i wanted to meet... if i had come to him and said i was filing for D, he would have been ready for it... in fact, he was at the point where he was ready to move on and file himself...

unfortunately, your WW is not there yet... she is not coming to you for reconciliation... that is what you want from her and must require of her: you want her to come to you taking responsibility for the hurt she has caused, willing to do the work necessary to save your marriage... until she comes with that, i do not see that you have to respond to her... i know this is difficult and scary... but she does know what you want and what you don't want...

she knows you do not want a D, but will not stand in her way if that is what she wants... you are not going to help her get a D, that all falls on her--if that is what she wants... and if that is what she wants, she can file and have you served...

she knows you are requiring NC with OM... she knows you need full disclosure... access to her phone, etc... she is not ready to offer that to you...

this talk will be more of her expressing that she has been hurt by you... hurt that you don't respond to her... hurt that you are no longer exhibiting Nice Guy behaviors... you recently caved and spent time with her... it felt nice in the moment... but when she got her fill, nothing had changed... you were no closer to piecing than before you spent time with her... and, in fact, it put you back...

if you agreed to be her friend right now, she would fully accept that and run with it... she would continue to live her life as she pleased, married to you (in name only)... but living the single life... you are not okay with that... you are too good for that... know that!!!

but now... what do you think you should do? are you satisfied with how she approached you?--a blunt, "when can we talk?" she didn't even ask, "can we talk?" that would have been respectful... as always--mis dos centavos...

--artista

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...sorry. Before we go any further. Her exact text was

"When can you talk"


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Thank you for the timely advice H and A.

I am not OK with how she approached it no. I do have a question in regards to the future if she wants to file.

If we do get the D, it will be a dissolution (not a divorce); this will be easier because we have currently very few assets (almost none) together, and it will save on court/attorney fees. The dissolution is basically a no fault agreement where both parties sign papers and get them notarized and then have a brief hearing. If and/or when she approaches me telling me she wants to divorce me...am I supposed to NOT sign these papers? I mean, we all know "we" the LBS is "not to stand in the way of WS filing". So if they want to, they should. But a divorce is different, bc one person files and the other is served. With the dissolution, she already filled out the paperwork and I just have to sign it. Do I refuse to sign it, and then it gets ugly and she must file for divorce? --I do not want to spend time and money on that......thoughts here?


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She moved out: 9/1
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Only you can answer that, chris. The costs will be on her if she files. You mentioned you have few assets. You don't have kids. You have a short marriage, so alimony is likely not on the table, even if you guys have very dissimilar incomes. What's your maximum downside, here?

Take the dissolution papers from her. Don't sign them. You need to review them, anyway. Let her push you to finalize it.

If you decide you want out, then sign them. Otherwise, just wait and be patient.


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Correct; we have no kids; there would be no alimony or anything like that. She has filled everything out and I am actually in possession of all the paperwork because she basically gave them to me before Xmas and said; whatever happens I just wanted to have this stuff together. You can review everything; and we can walk through it all. She then said again...I know nothing is decided; I just got everything together.

She texted again: “you not responding is really starting to upset me”.

Again; more “I” statements from her.


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BD: 8/15
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