I haven't said anything although I have been reading along.

Sandi and Artista have both commented in different ways saying reasonably similar things.

I see lots of analysis, lots of telling WW she must sort herself out, lots of compliance and maintaining.

I do not see any romance or seduction, I don't really see any I am attractive to my WW. Together time and seductive Touching! I just read more of the same old same old. Even at Xmas.

Sandi said it very clearly, it is the idea of OM and happiness that is enticing, the dream of romance.

So what do I mean, V be very clear, let me give you a couple of ideas? You lost your ring and to W her ring may symbolise the old M, now I can think of lots of ways this could be turned to seduction and analysis isn't on that list.

It's Xmas and analysing do I give her a present, think less tangible on this, again seduction.....

And in case I am still not clear, carving the turkey after waiting on 3 'tired' men in a household who spend time in bed when I am working hard to provide a wonderful Xmas is same old same old. You have seen the film Shirley Valentine haven't you?

Talk to the wall, you are in a phase of your M when you can afford romance and can be attractive. Aged pa took aged ma dancing all her married life because she loved it, even at 95 dressed in his best suit to visit aged ma in hospital for their 65 wedding anniversary, with flowers (her favourite) and prosecco. That manand November knew his wife's hot spots for seduction and was not afraid to use them.

So where is the romance and seduction?

What are your WW hot spots?

What attracted your WW to you originally?

What were your seduction techniques then?

Where is the Flirting?

Really!

V


Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose.
V 64, WAW