AtlantaDave:

How much closer are you to getting real DESIRE from her. Duty sex does not count for anything in my book. Is it even possible to get to a "Passionate Marriage" when the LD has no desire? Like I have said before, it's not the sex, it's not the frequency, it is all about the DESIRE for sex. The Desire is the Passsion, not the actual act itself. Our wifes must WANT to have sex and affection, and without help from us, to really have any level of passion. If we have to ASK for sex, then the whole moment is lost! I want to have 2-3 hour love making sessions, not 5 minutes let's take care of you crap!