Chocolateeyes, it sounds like you've tried a LOT of things, and nothing has worked. I think you also realize that the status quo doesn't work, either. What have you got to lose by trying one more thing? Just make sure you try something different. If you've been reading the posts of a few of us the past few days on the subject of Passionate Marriage (they're in a FEW threads, so look around), you might be wondering what all the fuss is about. This, I can promise you, is TOTALLY new. Just get the book and read it. Read it from beginning to end. See if it doesn't give you some new tools and a new outlook to try. As AtlantaDave said, I promise you none of us have any affiliation with the author or publisher - we just know we're onto something MUCH more promising than The Five Love Languages or songs or poetry or flowers...