hmmm
you reminded me of something. at BD my exh was desperate to have son think it was mutual. i didn't agree, but didn't clarify anything for our son. I let exh do all the talking. I only said, "we both love you very much son"

son knew exactly what was going on the entire time.

Just like your girls knew. Kids are not stupid.

sorry, flashback. this isn't about me and I will re-focus now.

Roist's advice : [quote=Roist]# when ye meet, set yourself the hard target to not react to her. Let her talk as much as possible. Don't judge her, correct her or put her in her place. Hold your tongue. This will let her finish what she has to say and not get sidetracked reacting to your reaction.
# at the end thank her for opening up and say you want to consider what she said and you will get back to her.
# eliminate the thinking that this will be or is the sane old white again and again. Have an open mind.
# try interpret what she really means. By this I mean that maybe she will attack you or look for pity but she could have a good intention behind a bad communication.
/quote]
I think spot on, esp. the first two points.

Remember, the more she talks, rambles, babbles, the more information you will have to make a reasonable assessment of next steps for Ds. Much is revealed in their endless rambles.

enjoy your trip xoxo keep us posted.


M 20+ T25+
S ~15.5 (BD)
BD 4/6/15
D 12/23/16

"Someone I loved once gave me
A box full of darkness.
It took me years to understand,
That this too, was a gift."
~ Mary Oliver